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Duncan Seth-Smith
Username: Sakofox

Registered: 08-2007
Posted on Tuesday, 19 January, 2010 - 10:35 pm:   

PS. And make sure you have spaces between words
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Duncan Seth-Smith
Username: Sakofox

Registered: 08-2007
Posted on Tuesday, 19 January, 2010 - 10:31 pm:   

This thread has got everyone goingwhich is great but I suggest you slow down, check your spelling and think before you press 'Post'.
And most of all, let's all look forward to our next IHDT event and concentrate on the P&P test, which would be far more productive.
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Rosemary Neale
Username: Rosemaryn

Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Tuesday, 19 January, 2010 - 09:46 pm:   

Yawn, yawn, yawn.
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Guest
Username: New

Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Tuesday, 19 January, 2010 - 07:53 pm:   

Sorry Martin. You're right.
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Guest
Username: New

Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Tuesday, 19 January, 2010 - 07:26 pm:   

opps sorry i had forgot to put my name on my last post 'Posted on Tuesday, 19 January, 2010 - 06:50 pm:'

i agree with you martyn are sport is a very friendly sport if not the friendlyest of all equine sport.

but i think if someone is not going to put his name to his comments and says "Why would anyone in their right mind want to?" then he should except the way it is and stop complaing about how its unfair.

Michael hodgson
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Martyn Willis
Username: Martynw

Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Tuesday, 19 January, 2010 - 06:58 pm:   

I think it is time all our guest took some time out and have a break. This is now boring and pointless just accept that you and the other guest are not going to reveal their identity which to me is a big shame in such a friendly sport where at events most competitors will help another out in anyway they can even if they are in the same class. can we PLEASE return this forum to indoor driving and not a guest chat room?
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Guest
Username: New

Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Tuesday, 19 January, 2010 - 06:50 pm:   

lol, i cannot see how any of what i have said is personally affensive in any way. i also said in my previous post. i hope there is no hard feeling at easter camp, that doesnt mean i still dont think you should not be putting your name on your post.

all i have said is that nobody is going to mark you down on dressage test or pushhed out of the sport. just because we know your name.

if you recive alot of emails from a unknown source, would in not get on your nerves?

also having reread my post to check for personal abusive languege i forgot to answer your question. yes if i went wrong in a obstacle and nobody noticed i would tell someone because i would feel ashamed if a stoped someone else competteing at keyso. but maybe this is different for different people
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Guest
Username: New

Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Tuesday, 19 January, 2010 - 06:30 pm:   

Well, no hard feelings before your last post.

You are already starting to get personal, which is something I didn't want so I witheld my name.

So you see, you are proving my point.
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Guest
Username: New

Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Tuesday, 19 January, 2010 - 05:47 pm:   

can i just say if there is know hard feeling between us why will you still not give your name. this obvously shows that you still think we are out to get you.

and before you say "i think it is more important about what you say not who says it" you obviously have alot of opions about things as wel as your ideas for a 19 - 25 class. the ihdta may want to contact you to hear those ideas
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Guest
Username: New

Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Tuesday, 19 January, 2010 - 11:51 am:   

No hard feelings.
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Guest
Username: New

Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Tuesday, 19 January, 2010 - 06:48 am:   

i do not drive Car so if i had driven over the speed limit i think people would be more worried about me driving not about what speed a went.

before i started driving i had done alot of showing, dressage and pony club (at different levels) and i have never meet a more friendlyer community. in my two year of driving i have done quite alot, i have been to many area/clubs, the junior events and windsor, at each event i am welcomed and showed were thing are, even the competitior are always willing to help.

driving is a much friendlyer sport than the police and the big world, we are not going to stab you or arrest you just for breaking a rule. it would be quite disonrable to be breaking rules and cheating your way to win as those people are your friends.

i just hope there is goin to be know hard feeling at the unicorn trust, and that we are able to put are view aside and welcome and new people we have come and have fun, just as i was and your two kids were.

hope to every cheering for each other at keyso and good luck

Michael Hodgson
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Guest
Username: New

Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Tuesday, 19 January, 2010 - 12:06 am:   

Steady on, Rita.
It was Fiona that started this thread!
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Rita Bundock
Username: Roanmare

Registered: 11-2007
Posted on Monday, 18 January, 2010 - 11:38 pm:   

To answer Tony G question.
I would not know if Moral Stance and Sniper are members as they do not have the courage to put a intials let alone their name on their postings.

As for Fiona - I only wish there were more like Fiona (perhaps 16 is going over the top!) As most of you know 'Indoors' is run by volunteers (NOT like BHDTA.) Organisers spend many hours organising events for YOU to enjoy so don't knock organisers like Fiona because without them YOU would not have any winter driving competitions. Food for thought - or perhaps YOU would like to volunteer....there are always shortages of help at all events especially at the end when everything has to be packed up, the litter picked up and the parking area checked for rubbish and anything left behind (sadly it is never a tenner)by the competitor in a hurry to get into their nice warm vehicle.

I hope everyone continues to support and enjoy Indoor driving events and this website forum that is here for your comments about OUR SPORT, so that we,the organisers, have some feedback about our sport - not sad people trying to fill their day.

Take care
Rita
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Guest
Username: New

Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Monday, 18 January, 2010 - 10:56 pm:   

Good question, Michael.

If I missed a gate in an obstacle and nobody noticed, I would almost certainly keep quiet about it. How about you?

If I were a waiter, I would probably not declare 100% of my tips to the taxman.

I have told at least one little white lie in my lifetime.

I have driven over the speed limit at least once.

I once found a pound coin and kept it.

I will not put my name because I feel it’s more important for you to deal with the content of what I am saying and not get bogged down by your ideas of who or what I am. I accept that I appear to be in a minority of one on this but despite what you said earlier it does not necessarily make me wrong.

Regards,

MS
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Fiona Powell
Username: Fionap

Registered: 12-2003
Posted on Monday, 18 January, 2010 - 10:48 pm:   

As the opinionated Wix-centric, frequently unintentionally offensive (believe me), occasionally misconstrued and entirely undemocratically self-appointed nut who started this thread, I've got to say that the idea of any more of me (16!!) is as appalling to me as it may (just possibly!) be to a few others but I appreciate the kind words. (Had to write this for myself before anyone else does. LOL)

In sweetness and light.
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Guest
Username: New

Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Monday, 18 January, 2010 - 10:12 pm:   

a question for you-

would you cheat and break the rules at a compition? i would hope not

so why would you break the rules on the forum and not put your name.

michael hodgson
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Guest
Username: New

Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Monday, 18 January, 2010 - 10:07 pm:   

Not exactly Michael,

Rather a lot of people are having a problem with the concept of "standing up and being counted".

You and I are obviously not having a problem with it at all.
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Guest
Username: New

Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Monday, 18 January, 2010 - 09:47 pm:   

erm. 'I think it probably goes with the territory that everbody insults guest even (or especially?) when he’s right.' A hint is when everybody is disagreeing with you it maybe time to realise that you are not right this is not a problem for peopleo only to you.

michael hodgson
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Guest
Username: New

Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Monday, 18 January, 2010 - 09:34 pm:   

Hello, Moral Stance here,

I think it probably goes with the territory that everbody insults guest even (or especially?) when he’s right. However, some of us seem to think that a “debate” is what you see on the Jerry Springer show. It seems to me that the answer to A Sniper or to Anonymous Posters (like me) is to look at what they are saying and discuss it.

With this in mind I would like to discuss the contribution by A Sniper.

I do see Fiona’s name on a lot of posts. Usually they are from people asking questions. Usually they have been questions that I would have liked to ask but was too shy. Usually nobody bothers with them ... and then up steps Fiona and has a go. What is wrong with that? If she is Wix-centric then rather than close her down we should clone her 16 times and have one in each area.

For every person that posts I am sure there are many that would like to. That is why I think you should keep Guest on board and stop this silliness of name-guessing. It’s what they say not who they are. That is why we must try being a little more gentle with each other. And that is why we need more posts from Fiona not fewer.

Kind regards to all the hatchet men
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Guest
Username: New

Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Monday, 18 January, 2010 - 09:04 pm:   

No! I am Spartacus.
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Guest
Username: New

Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Monday, 18 January, 2010 - 09:01 pm:   

now everybody will have a arguement about you knowing who is posting. :-)

Michael hodgson
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Guest
Username: New

Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Monday, 18 January, 2010 - 08:23 pm:   

I am the messenger and the only true guest.
Who gave any of you permission to complain in my name and using my logon?
I know who you are and where you come from I have the software.
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Guest
Username: New

Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Monday, 18 January, 2010 - 07:41 pm:   

(Moral Stance)
Yes
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Guest
Username: New

Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Monday, 18 January, 2010 - 06:27 pm:   

Question for Rita...are both Messrs A Sniper and I Moral-Stance members of IHDT?

tony g
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Guest
Username: New

Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Monday, 18 January, 2010 - 03:53 pm:   

who is this messenger, there is only 1 person complaining about there being a problem. so is there actually a problem? and i presumse that the person complaining hasn't got somebody else to type it onto the forum?

Michael Hodgson
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Guest
Username: New

Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Monday, 18 January, 2010 - 12:28 pm:   

You all want to shoot the messenger but he won’t give himself up. So you call him a dishonourable coward. Interesting moral stance.
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Guest
Username: New

Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Sunday, 17 January, 2010 - 08:15 am:   

I have taught my children to stand up and be counted, to air their views and share their ideas and opinions. Along with this comes the responsibility of doing it politely and constructively. If as adults we do the same thing and respect others different opinions, even if we don't agree with them, why would we want to hide who we are?? There are people in recent threads who want to remain anonymous, which seems to have overshadowed their intended message. I am sure plenty of people are wondering who they are and may have in their mind the completely wrong person, that's then not fair on these other people! The sharing of ideas is a powerful thing and a good debate is great but we shouldn't be being personal or unkind to anyone. Nicolette
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James Binns
Username: Jamesb

Registered: 12-2008
Posted on Saturday, 16 January, 2010 - 09:44 pm:   

I TELL YOU WHY, BECAUSE I AM TIRED OF HEARING PEOPLE COMPLAIN AND SNIPE AT AND ABOUT EACH OTHER! IF YOU DON'T HAVE COURAGE AND CONFIDENCE TO STAND AND BE COUNTED IN WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY AND BE ABLE TO LISTEN TO OTHERS THEN IT'S NOT A FORUM' IT'S A WHINGE SITE!! HEAD OFFICE HAS ALREADY SAID THAT ALL IDEA'S WILL BE CONCIDERED FOR NEXT SEASON'S RULE BOOK!! WHAT MORE CAN ANYONE ASK FOR?
James Binns
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Duncan Seth-Smith
Username: Sakofox

Registered: 08-2007
Posted on Saturday, 16 January, 2010 - 09:38 pm:   

To register or not? https://www.indoordriving.co.uk/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?tpc=3&post=2815#POST2815
If people do not wish to register then may be the answer is for guests to sign their message with a nickname, at least we would see which 'guests' were commenting on which threads.
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Guest
Username: New

Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Saturday, 16 January, 2010 - 07:48 pm:   

It's great to see happy smiling faces and people enjoying themselves at events!!! It makes all the phoning, schduling 7 times, casting around for helpers (who will still come if it rains), opening and shutting the gates, stacking cones, layoing out the dresage arena, organizing the paperwork, even the odd complaint wothwhile. That's for me the high of being an organizer. It's feeling that you make something nice ahppen out of nothing. Making it too scary to put your name to a post that people might read as controversal is still sensorship. (James didn't say we were demoralized: he's made of sterner stuf0)
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Guest
Username: New

Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Saturday, 16 January, 2010 - 02:20 pm:   

I didn't say it. James Binns did. I just wondered why.
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Dilys Gordon
Username: Noodle

Registered: 10-2009
Posted on Saturday, 16 January, 2010 - 02:11 pm:   

Our 12.59am 'Guest' is a real wind up merchant who obviously can't sleep - is it because he has managed to rattle so many people? I disagree that 'the organisers' seem to be so demoralised. They have done a stout job in remaining quite silent other than stating what is required. Remember, this is THEIR ball game to which you are invited to play and if you don't like it then you know what to do. There is not a committee for IHDT, Rita and Dick run this double handed and provide so much fun for so many. Sorry, but they do have the last say so let's stop grinding away and get out now and exercise our equines and ourselves. I have had lots of giggles throughout this whole thing so thanks to those who at least accomplished that. I'm sure should you enter the wrong class you will be guided in the right direction.
Dilys G
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Guest
Username: New

Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Saturday, 16 January, 2010 - 12:59 am:   

Of course, in the trenches you didn’t put your head over the parapet because somebody would shoot at it.

This standing up and being counted thing seems to be a recurrent theme. Why would anyone in their right mind want to?

The other thing I don’t understand is why the organisers appear to be so demoralised by the last couple of weeks threads.

Is there anyone out there who could hazard an explanation?

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James Binns
Username: Jamesb

Registered: 12-2008
Posted on Friday, 15 January, 2010 - 01:01 pm:   

I believe that if something needs saying just say it the way it is!! Most people dont because of the belief that they will be pushed out or given poor scores and out of the clicks that are within the sport, both indoors and out. If people are not prepared to put there heads above the parrapit and be counted then they should accept the way it is and get on with having FUN thats why we do this is it not? Please remember though ALL EVENTS are run by unpaid volunteers and the last couple of weeks threads I am sure have some of them and the organizers thinking why are WE doing this? Come on lets move on and compete!!!!!

James Binns
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Guest
Username: New

Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Thursday, 14 January, 2010 - 08:22 pm:   

Why kill off a good forum? There are people posting who won't post under your suggestions. All you will do is silence the majority. Up to you. Your forum.
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Mike Watts
Username: Mikew

Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Thursday, 14 January, 2010 - 07:48 pm:   

Alan, that might work - thanks....
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Alan Hodges
Username: Alan

Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Thursday, 14 January, 2010 - 07:33 pm:   

Why not enable IP addresses for all posts. I know you can see this as an administrator but the rest of us might find it interesting.
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Duncan Seth-Smith
Username: Sakofox

Registered: 08-2007
Posted on Thursday, 14 January, 2010 - 06:40 pm:   

Mike, no matter how much you ask people to put their names to the posts it seems that many do not want to be associated with the thread they are answering.
Why don't we do away with the guest option and insist everyone registers. May be some of the content would change for the better. Just a thought.
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Mike Watts
Username: Mikew

Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Thursday, 14 January, 2010 - 02:55 pm:   

This is to remind people of a rule of this indoor driving forum:

"NEW USERS/GUESTS you can post now: use Username New password pony but please include your name in the message and email me for for your own registration."

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Guest
Username: New

Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Thursday, 14 January, 2010 - 12:02 pm:   

“Sorry i thought this was a carriage driving forum”

I think this thread has started up to keep the non-carriage driving posts out of the other threads. So hopefully if you stay clear of this thread you will get undiluted carriage driving. If not, I think this may be the place to come for a few frank and honest exchanges of views.

“there are (I believe) plenty of sites which are geared more towards your taste, anonymous sniper.”

Possibly, but what we are talking about is how people post on THIS forum. It was a complaint but I don’t think the anonymous sniper was rude. Your post escalates things a bit. On the other hand why not have a thread devoted to the letting off of steam?


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Guest
Username: New

Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Thursday, 14 January, 2010 - 11:30 am:   

If you want to feel like naughty school children there are (I believe) plenty of sites which are geared more towards your taste, anonymous sniper.
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Guest
Username: New

Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Thursday, 14 January, 2010 - 09:52 am:   

l thought the whole idea of a forum was for everybody to be able to air their views and share opinions!while Fiona may feel she is giving the definitive answer to them,different areas of the country have different issues to the area she runs,also is she the appointed spokesperson for the IDHT or just a normal individual like the rest of us? we would appreciate the courtesy of being able to share our opinions without being made to feel like naughty school children!!!!!!

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Guest
Username: New

Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Thursday, 14 January, 2010 - 08:40 am:   

Sorry i thought this was a carriage driving forum.
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Guest
Username: New

Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Thursday, 14 January, 2010 - 02:15 am:   

I am a little troubled by the guest who does not like “Guest” to speak definitively on every topic.

To begin with, I find the posts where people speak definitively are the most interesting. Fiona aka Darth often speaks definitively – thank goodness.

“On every topic”? there has only been one active thread recently, so it’s only one topic not “every topic”.

I looked up “forum” in the dictionary and it means public discussion. It is shared because it is public but of course that doesn’t mean every member of the public needs to participate. In fact, discussions are usually held between a very small number of people. Furthermore, the way these threads are recorded (in a linear, chronological fashion) means that if half a dozen people were posting at the same time the thread would soon be unintelligible.

So does the previous guest simply mean that one person appears to be monopolising the forum? If that is the case the answer is not to try to shut that person up but to encourage more people to speak out. You can’t keep blaming Guest because you don’t like what you read. If Guest is wrong, don’t tell him, tell him why.

Perhaps the previous guest would like to expand on his/her point because I’m still not sure I understand it. I have no problem with the guest remaining anonymous.

This is not my first post so I will wait a few days to let other people have a go.
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Guest
Username: New

Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Monday, 11 January, 2010 - 07:08 pm:   

He gets on because he posts. Others dont because they dont.
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Guest
Username: New

Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Monday, 11 January, 2010 - 05:45 pm:   

I have been following various threads recently and have been wondering why on an open forum it appears that they are all answered by one person.... and not always politely!.who also appears to speak definitively on every topic! I thought the idea of an open forum was to share thoughts and ideas to benefit everyone???????
Whilst happy to put my name to my post, I am not in this case because of the previous comments.
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Guest
Username: New

Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Monday, 11 January, 2010 - 01:36 pm:   

Dear Darth,

Sorry, I posted something to the “young drivers” thread before reading this.

I accept your comments about my wildly schizophrenic postings but I feel that even if I only had to say which of my postings was me I would stop posting. I have become addicted to posting. Perhaps you would be doing me a favour to ban me. I could get on with my day job. Spend more time with the pony.

It would certainly help if I did not channel all of my creative zeal into the young drivers thread especially since a lot of it now seems to be about censorship from people with names and not really about young drivers.

So I/we am grateful you have opened up this new thread. It saddens me/us that I/we sadden you but I can think of no other way for the two(/three/four/five/sixteen/two hundred) of us to keep meeting like this. You are my favourite literalist and unlike me you answer questions rather than just asking them. Thank you from both/all of me.

Guest
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Guest
Username: New

Registered: 12-2006
Posted on Monday, 11 January, 2010 - 12:35 pm:   

I celebrate that the previous thread (young drivers) is so lively and still interesting to so many people.

What saddens me greatly is that a few guests feel that they cannot put their name - or even fake initials or a nickname - to their messages. At least then we readers could relate two or more posts to the same source, which adds to the interest for me.

As it is, many posts in the young drivers thread are from articulate and (I think) intelligent and thoughtful Dr Jekyll Guests, whom I'd like to hear more from, and several from the same logon posting in their Mr Hyde/Victor Meldrew persona.

Why does anyone really think "who you are is more important than what you say"? What horrible vengeance shall be wreaked on you? By whom?

I ain't nobody but I'm prepared to stand up and be counted - as an opinionated nutter or otherwise.

If you have a comment that's worth airing, surely it should have the support of an identifiable source?

I defend your right to post and remain anonymous because I think it's really important to keep this forum as open as possible, for accolades and brickbats, but I am very disappointed that anyone feels this way about the people who read the forum and run our sport (which includes me).

Darth V



aka Fiona Powell

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