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     Rita Bundock Username: Roanmare Registered: 11-2007 |
It took me a few years of trying, before it was agreed to get the Small Classes introduced to Indoor Driving. Some time ago now I used to drive small ponies (single, pair and tandem) and had so much fun I thought it would be good for other small pony drivers to enjoy Indoors, but now it is going sour. NO ONE is being accused of cheating, a few moans yes, but there is always someone who will complain about something or someone. This is why we are asking drivers of small ponies that are near to or up to height to show a brief note from the vet stating the pony height, this will save any awful lot of trouble if the problem arises at Keysoe. We know that an 'official' cert is expensive which is why we asked for ' a vets note'. Marisa has happily complied to the full and I am sure Anya, Sarah and any other driver would do so also. (Sarah I answered your question within this post.) All of you that like a moan - moan away - enjoy it - have fun, don't even give it a thought that you may be upsetting some one else, or even worse upsetting your area organizer! dangerous thing to do this time of the year. Why? Next years events are being arranged NOW, upset your area organizer = no events in your area next winter. Good fun this Forum lark. Look forward to seeing you all at Keysoe, entries now closed and provisional time table will be posted soon. Take care Rita | ||
| Guest Username: New Registered: 02-2010 |
When I posted on this thread I wanted to know if I was one of several people who were being accused of not abiding by IHDT rules.All I wanted say that I or any others should have been given a chance to have our ponies measured when this complaint was made, which we are happy to do to stop these people muttering behind our backs and spoiling our enjoyment of events. Now it seems that people with up to height small ponies are being accused of moaning and never helping out at events! I personaly always enjoy helping at events, being one of the few you mentioned building and clearing and I am part the committiee for my local harness club helping to run events and deal with any problems. I also put my name to any comments I may have. Sarah Braybrook | ||
| Guest Username: New Registered: 02-2010 |
Spot on Ms/Mr Other-Guest. A nice moan makes any day a good one. I.M. Notareal-Guest ps Are we related? | ||
| Guest Username: New Registered: 02-2010 |
Are you moaning about the fact that people like to moan? If so, that's fine by me. If you can't moan on a forum then where can you moan? A.N. Other-Guest. | ||
| Guest Username: New Registered: 02-2010 |
It never ceases to amaze me what people go on about. So your pony is up to height, get it measured and prove the point. Perhaps this should be across the board and any pony up to 14.2 should have a measurement cert, now there is a thought for the Indoor Committee to consider, that would enrage another section of competitors. Any one given a thought about the work that goes into equine events. It must take a large amount of time to organize qualifiers let alone the Keysoe Finals. Just take a look at the the obstacles being built, sometime by just two or three people, ever thought about helping? Come on all of you that enjoy a good moan about how things are done, look at it from the other side of the gate, would you take all the complaints about this or that and continue running driving events? What has happened to the one for all and all for one attitude? that was how it was not so long ago. Indoor events have always been happy events, rules have to be altered from time to time, so lets just accept them and get on and enjoy ourselves. Good fortune to all at The Finals. | ||
| Marisa Pinnock Username: Marisa Registered: 11-2010 |
Well I am one of those that has been named personally and I totally agree that not only does it leave a bad feeling but it has soured the second half of my season. Last year I did not produce a height certificate since I was not asked to. This year, not only have I produced the proof, as requested but I also took a measuring stick to one of my eight qualifiers to show the organizers that I was really not trying to cheat. Troy is 113cm with shoes, and falls into small pony class. Since he is put to a 4-wheel carriage carrying 2 adults he is pulling well over twice the weight of a 2-wheeler with one person that he is entitled to have in this class. If this class is only for Shetlands perhaps the rules should state so? Certainly I know who some of the people are that have been complaining about me and what they have said, but it really undermines the spirit of our sport when underhand grumbles are made. I completely agree the rules should be stuck to fairly and everyone should accept that. At most of the other shows in the year we compete as the smallest against ponies up to 148 cm and I have never gone round making comments about large animals, we just do our best and enjoy ourselves. | ||
| Guest Username: New Registered: 02-2010 |
I totally agree with you Sarah, I too would like to know who are being accused (and also who is doing the accusing), especially as we both drive ponies near the up to height limit (mine are registered standard shetlands 10.2hh). It definitely leaves a bad feeling! Anya Mower Tunnock's Caramel & Tunnock's Wafer | ||
| IHDTC Office Username: Ihdtcoffice Registered: 01-2003 |
No Sarah, to my knowledge you were not mentioned. Rita | ||
| Guest Username: New Registered: 02-2010 |
I wonder whos ponies were considered over height in previous small pony classes at the championships? As a competitor I would have been more than happy to provide a height certificate if any one had questioned the height of my small pony pair. I think this is something that should have been raised at the time as the driver of a pair standing 11hh and 10.3hh I can't help but wonder if I am one of the people now being accused? Not a nice feeling for anyone who has driven ponies that are close to the height limit. Sarah Braybrook (Lucifer and Star) | ||
| Liz Howe Username: Lizh Registered: 10-2007 |
All other disciplines which state a maximum height in their classes require a height certificate so why not driving? showing ridden cobs, ponies, show-jumping - you need a certificate to compete. The ridden showing world is not a happy place at the moment regarding height issues, so I won’t go down that road...... If person A is saying that person B’s pony is bigger than person B is claiming it to be, that just causes ill feeling and discontent. The driving world is a happy community so let’s keep it that way. If at the championships there is an incident where an overheight pony is competing, probably there is no measuring pad on-site and no-one qualified to measure a pony anyway. Having a height certificate from a vet, to be produced before that championships is the best way to run a clean event, the organisers are just bringing IHDT into line with other societies. I drive a small pony and am more than happy to provide a height certificate. I guess that the folk that will moan most about this are the ones trying to put an overheight animal in a small class, quite what they are trying to achieve by doing so, I have no idea. | ||
| IHDTC Office Username: Ihdtcoffice Registered: 01-2003 |
We are aware that this MAY be the case and it is being dealt with to prevent it happening again. | ||
| Lindsey Doran Username: Lindseyd Registered: 04-2010 |
I'm sorry but certain ponies that have already competed at the finals are over height, this problem needs addressing.... | ||
| IHDTC Office Username: Ihdtcoffice Registered: 01-2003 |
As some vets are reluctant to measure ponies unless it is an 'official measuring' thus causing extra expenses, the following applies: Any pony that is obviously under 11 hands & Registered Miniature and Standard Shetland Ponies do not require vet confirmation of 11 hands. Any SMALL Ponies that have competed at Keysoe in previous Indoor Championships/Finals do not require Vet's height confirmation. Ponies up to class height must have Vets confirmation to prevent any possible dispute from other competitors. | ||
| IHDTC Office Username: Ihdtcoffice Registered: 01-2003 |
Vet's Height Certificate does not mean a life or annual height certificate just a statement from your Vet confirming the pony is 11 hands or under, half inch allowed for shoes. | ||
| IHDTC Office Username: Ihdtcoffice Registered: 01-2003 |
Small ponies that qualify for the Championships at Keysoe will require a Vet’s Height Certificate to verify that they are 11 hands or under. This certificate must be produced at time of declaring intention to compete. This applies to all small ponies with the exception Registered Miniature Shetlands whose SPS-BS Passport must be shown at time of declaration. |