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Colin Whitear Username: Colinwhitear
Registered: 09-2011
| Posted on Sunday, 12 February, 2012 - 09:22 pm: | |
The lack of a front ramp on the 510xl is a pain I admit. For this reason I am going to build my own with side ramps front and rear. I can then load the ponies in the rear ramp and stand them herringbone, then load the cart in behind. I can then unload the ponies from the front (ideal in an emergency). With a bit of thought I should be able to carry a team of 12.2's, a 4wheeler and still meet all the vosa regs. |
   
Helen Bridges Username: Helenb
Registered: 08-2011
| Posted on Friday, 03 February, 2012 - 11:33 am: | |
the only problem i found with the 510xl, it does not have a front ramp,which is a right pain and it is a bit narrower than the 610(internal width) which makes getting the carriage in more of a struggle.also the whole issue of altering the spec. of anything as it leaves the factory can get you into bother with insurance companies with "construction and use".you have to notify them of any changes.good luck! |
   
Colin Whitear Username: Colinwhitear
Registered: 09-2011
| Posted on Thursday, 02 February, 2012 - 10:31 pm: | |
There are various ways to go, an ifor williams 510xl will carry a cart and ponies. I'm looking to drive a team of 12.2's and I reckon I can get them all in and a cart, Legally!! You can also look at purpose built but this is expensive. Being a driving instructor I don't need points. |
   
Ginny White Username: Ginnyw
Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Thursday, 02 February, 2012 - 07:32 pm: | |
Having just replaced my lorry with motor var/www and trailer, i will just post what i was told by a reputable trailer dealer, on a similar line to Colin's post, that (var/www made)any trailers with incorrect length and weight will be outlawed,(i don't personally know what this is), i have gone for a large sinclair trailer big enough to get the pony and trap in so it doesn't get dirty and is secure when i return var/www in the dark , call me lazy if you like! |
   
Colin Whitear Username: Colinwhitear
Registered: 09-2011
| Posted on Wednesday, 01 February, 2012 - 10:40 pm: | |
Be careful with drawbar extensions, most vehicles have a limit on the draw bar weight most around 100kgs. An extension with a carriage on it will almost certainly exceed this limit. If while using it you are checked by VOSA and found to be exceeding the limit you will be liable to prosecution. |
   
Nicolette Hughes Username: Nicolettepurple
Registered: 03-2010
| Posted on Sunday, 22 January, 2012 - 05:37 pm: | |
Hi again! The water carrier was behind the wheels yes and I used to travel it full of water! You can have one either side, they have a tap and the water carrier and awning were made by show shelters and worked great. Price wise about £750 up for a decent extension. My first trailer had an extension on too which worked great, it was literally a square frame of channelled metal, much lighter and carriage fit on great, a local chap could do that, I had a smaller carriage on it and my daughter and I just lifted it on easily ourself. This was on a lightweight trailer but rear unload only. Cheval liberte do trailers with a carriage extension on but again rear unload only. Nice trailers, I had one of those two, towed great and hitch was very easy! |
   
Wendy Wyatt Username: Wendyw
Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Sunday, 22 January, 2012 - 05:29 pm: | |
Nicolette are your water carriers behind the rear wheels, to help balance extra weight from carriage on hitch? and what sort of price is the cost for having extension done? Also does your carriage get dirty on trip or have you had cover made for it? wendy |
   
Tara Hill Username: Tarahill
Registered: 05-2009
| Posted on Sunday, 22 January, 2012 - 12:20 pm: | |
What kind of price are you looking at for a carriage extension? |
   
Nicolette Hughes Username: Nicolettepurple
Registered: 03-2010
| Posted on Sunday, 22 January, 2012 - 08:51 am: | |
I have had 2 trailers with extensions on the front. Both worked very well and we never had any problems even towing very long distances. I even put an awning and water carrier on my trailer, it was great! centaur engineering in Wisbech did my last one and it was very robust, took a large carriage and we very happy with the quality, I had this on an Ifor 510. We also put hay on it as well as carriage if we were going for HDT. All fine!! You need a meaty towing vehicle though, we used to use a 2.5 diesal discovery or my 2.9 diesal people carrier, both fine with carriage, car full of people, harnesses and 2 ponies! |
   
Helen Bridges Username: Helenb
Registered: 08-2011
| Posted on Saturday, 21 January, 2012 - 08:34 pm: | |
depends how big your pony is,i have found that the ifor 510 is ok for around 13hh anything bigger needs a 610,very heavy,or the wessex treble which is the same weight as the ifor and you can get a 4-wheeler and bigger horse in,when you sort the partitions out,hope that helps. |
   
Wendy Wyatt Username: Wendyw
Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Saturday, 21 January, 2012 - 02:51 pm: | |
Thinking of trying this route, would like to hear anyones reviews and costs involved? I Have heard about the weight on the towing hitch theory. But really cant understand why any trailer manufacturers have not seen this as a marketable design? Or any people ways, of fitting 4 wheel and pony into trailer? Thankyou |